
One of the challenges of #TBT is to find “evergreen” blog posts that are truly relevant today. Our industry has changed so quickly that even a post that’s only a couple years ago could be dated.
But not this post from just two years ago. The questions it raises about smart digital initiatives may be even more on-point given the rate of speed at which more and more radio companies are careening down the “digital highway.”
There’s an ROI to every activity we do, and this post has some strong suggestions for how broadcasters can work smart to reap the maximum benefits from their digital efforts.
Don’t forget to use the “comments” to let me know how this post has held up.
September 2023
Last week, I wrote a pair of posts addressing digital opportunities for radio organizations. Each generated lots of comments – the written kind you see below at the end of each post, as well as on our socials. But given our presence at conferences and market visits, we get face-to-face feedback about various posts all the time from engaged broadcasters.
“How Radio Can Successfully Dive For Digital Dollars” listed four important boxes that contribute to success with non-OTR content. And “Fish Where The Digital Fish Are,” which ran the next day, provided a pair of digital solutions we hope some of you consider.
But the one point where we heard the most feedback was under the umbrella of “Digitize Your Audience.” This has become a Paul Jacobs mantra, and for good reason. Your brand and organization can enjoy success in the digital realm, but if you’re coming away from that activity with only a fistful of dollars, you may be missing the big opportunity to glean key data from your users. And because you have to attract new listeners again and again, you’re not operating at scale and you’re starting from scratch with each round.
Oftentimes, content creators and marketers don’t take this into account. It’s akin to doing a lot of business, but never getting receipts. Someone can listen to – and LOVE – one of your podcasts, but if you don’t know who she is and how to connect with her after the fact
, you may never get her back to try another item on your content menu.
Every piece of digital content you produce and platform you’re on is different. Some easily allow for these “receipts.” Others may be one and done. They listen but you never learn who they are, how to get them back, and how to monetize their time again and again.
This differentiation reminds me a lot of Lori Lewis‘ early days with Jacobs Media. Way back then (it was 2011), Lori knew her stuff – cold. And Paul and I simply peppered her with questions about the mysteries and vagaries of social media that started becoming clear(er).

One of the principles we talked about a lot revolved around radio sending the audience to social media, primarily Facebook. “Go to our Facebook page” became one of the most repeated phrases on the airwaves, especially as programming and talent struggled to update the station website. I remember conversations with station management questioning whether websites were even relevant in the social media ecosphere
And to that point, we started having discussions about the assets radio stations “rented” and the ones they “owned.” Facebook, Twitter, and other social spaces were in the “rented” category. “Landlords” like Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk can (and do) change the rules at their whim. Twitter (X) users have felt this big time during the past 11 months. Other “rentals” include YouTube, a place radio continues to send its precious listeners.
Fast-forward a decade and things haven’t changed much. While the “rent/own” question still begs to be asked, radio broadcasters are involved with digital initiatives with varying returns on investment. In many
cases, stations are chasing downloads and page views – both important pursuits that generate digital dollars. But in these cases and so many others, broadcasters aren’t getting those all important “receipts” – email addresses from the consumers who sample this content.
For too long, radio has blindly accepted “dumb data” from Nielsen. All we know is when people listen and for how long. Outside of their gender, their ethnicity (sort of), and their age, these people are anonymous. It’s frustratingly incomplete.
Yet, so often, stations engage in “random acts of digital” – doing what’s right in front of them with no thought given being able to reconnect with these people after the encounter.
It’s about “digitizing” the audience, a fancy way to account for and measure them. This can be accomplished in myriad ways: signing up for your member benefits database, subscribing to a piece of content (newsletter, concert calendar, a game, access to something of value), registering for a contest, or as admission to an event.
The email database may be the least “sexy” tool in the kit, but it may carry the most value. Once you have it, you can learn more about these people via short surveys, offer them special incentives to listen, market them to sales (without going overboard), and encourage them to tune into your other programming features.
Of course, in public and Christian radio, they are also the pipeline to more donations, the Holy Grail of these formats.
But if you don’t “digitize” these folks, you lose the opportunity to monetize them. And engage them. And track them. And re-engage them.
If you commit to a strategic plan to grow your database, and you stuck with it, it could function for you like the “new Nielsen.” You control the size of the database, and to a great degree, the actions of its members. With tens of thousands of them under your roof, present and accounted for, you’ve got yourself a big-time marketing opportunity. And it’s a lot cheaper to run this operation than it is to buy your ratings and share them with scores of stations in your market, and all those agencies who use them to jam you on rates.
You can even digitize “non-listeners.” They may not tune in your morning show, but if they consume other content you create – a concert calendar, a local newsletter, a game you create, an entertainment guide app, a news app – you’ve got them.
Ultimately, you would even determine the answer to a question that Bryan Biniak, CEO of Connected Travel, posed to Paul and me several years ago during a meeting at the NAB. It’s a question not a single person in radio can answer. And in the world of media and marketing, it’s an important one:
What is the value of a listener? 
In tech world, the CEOs of Uber, Spotify, TikTok, and even that small startup in your building can all precisely answer it. In radio, it remains a mystery.
Making it a goal to digitize your audience is a great starting point.
You bring it life by collecting receipts, a matter of applying strategic discipline to your digital plan.
Keep it up and you become an “owner.” And the amount of real estate you own is up to you.
Just hold onto the receipts.
We are pleased to announce that Jacobs Media has joined the 10-Minute Trainer Network. Chris Brunt will be posting short “How To” videos to help stations with their digital strategies. For more information, go to Ten-Minute Trainer Network | On-Demand OTT Video Training Platform
If your station or company is interested in enhancing its own digital strategy, reach out to Paul here.
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Knowing your audience is essential. Digital is Connection. Broadcasting is Content.
I second that, Clark.
Hey the Fred…amazing must read stuff every day. Thanks so much for doing this for our industry!
Link links in TBT article for “How Radio Can Successfully Dive For Digital Dollars” and“Fish Where The Digital Fish Are,” go to a “Can’t be Found” page.
I missed those back in the day and love to read them.
Dan, thanks for the kind words. I’ll hunt those links down and get them connected.
Apologies, Dan. Here they are: “How Radio Can Succesfully Dive For Digital Dollars” and “Fish Where the Digital Fish Are”
As Dan said, those two links are still down (as of Sunday). Maybe it would be easier to just include them once corrected in a post-script to a post later this week?
Both are now included in my response to Dan. Apologies, David. And I will add them to tomorrow’s post.